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Don't Believe Lawrence's Lies...

Postby hiyacrystal » October 14th, 2013, 6:10 pm

What do you think made Lawrence help John?

I mean why would he want nothing kept from him with Jigsaw, why would he want to help the madman that terrorized him and his family and technically killed a friend he came close to in a short period of time.

What is your opinion on the matter?
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Re: Don't Believe Lawrence's Lies...

Postby VaCcAr0 » October 14th, 2013, 7:08 pm

Honestly, it makes no sense whatsoever.
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Re: Don't Believe Lawrence's Lies...

Postby hiyacrystal » October 14th, 2013, 7:15 pm

Hopefully if they make a saw 8 they may bring out a shock reasoning or something but I highly doubt there could be a big twist to do with that
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Re: Don't Believe Lawrence's Lies...

Postby zZUndeadOdysseyZz » October 15th, 2013, 5:47 am

hiyacrystal wrote:What do you think made Lawrence help John?

I mean why would he want nothing kept from him with Jigsaw, why would he want to help the madman that terrorized him and his family and technically killed a friend he came close to in a short period of time.

What is your opinion on the matter?


I honestly thought that Lawrence helping Jigsaw was a bunch of bull. I mean from what I saw in Saw I, he'd never do something like that. He'd actually more than likely want revenge. I kind of liked Gordon in Saw I, but then in Saw 3D I thought they f**ked up his character. To me they made it seem like he didn't give two s**ts about his wife, his daughter or Adam. It just doesn't really make any sense to me. :close: :???:
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Re: Don't Believe Lawrence's Lies...

Postby hiyacrystal » October 15th, 2013, 9:11 am

Ikr!

Adam and Lawrence shared such a bond in the first film and he kept saying stuff along the lines of how he was coming back for Adam. Lawrence wasn't the sort of person to assist Jigsaw in taht sort of way and he wasn't really getting anything out of it so it's a completly crap way to have a "big" twist in the last film.
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Re: Don't Believe Lawrence's Lies...

Postby hiyacrystal » October 15th, 2013, 9:12 am

*that
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Re: Don't Believe Lawrence's Lies...

Postby GA/NYlit » October 19th, 2013, 3:15 am

I'm still not convinced Gordon was helping John of his own free will. I'd like to think he was still somehow being blackmailed or something... Because it's totally not something he would do. Although it was a badass ending lol!!
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Re: Don't Believe Lawrence's Lies...

Postby Kitty » January 1st, 2014, 9:50 pm

hiyacrystal wrote:Ikr!

Adam and Lawrence shared such a bond in the first film and he kept saying stuff along the lines of how he was coming back for Adam. Lawrence wasn't the sort of person to assist Jigsaw in taht sort of way and he wasn't really getting anything out of it so it's a completly crap way to have a "big" twist in the last film.


They might have shared a bond, but from what I saw, I don't think Lawrence was going to come back for Adam. Only my thought.
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Re: Don't Believe Lawrence's Lies...

Postby Red Green » August 19th, 2014, 11:42 pm

The producers have confirmed that Adam is dead.

But not HOW.

(Let's assume the mercy killing is not canon/a dream instead/he didn't die to the suffocation.)

My theory is that Lawrence went back later to save Adam somehow. Then he got divorced and separated between his wife and daughter, so he decided to team up with Jigsaw.

Then, at some point, something happened between Adam and him and Adam was killed somehow. So he took Adam's body into the bathroom to avoid John noticing that he saved him without him knowing. (We never see John visit the bathroom after Saw I.)

I don't remember any other proof/theories there is, so this is all I got for now.

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Re: Don't Believe Lawrence's Lies...

Postby thundergod318 » August 22nd, 2014, 2:51 pm

Stockholm Syndrome. If John kept the doc confined while treating his injuries and made a point to discuss the test, the implications of its results, and everything else that was going on, I can see his mind shaping around the trauma and accepting it as something necessary. I would actually have really enjoyed a series of scenes detailing this process, to put some psychological value back in the series which had been largely absent since III.
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